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Re: Tirade in Support of Vinyl Japan
From: Mike <mike_at_plasticcastle.com>
Date: Fri 24 Aug 2001 - 07:59:19 PDT
>> The reissue of "Scandal in Bohemia" and the other old titles is a
>> minor miracle, and we should all be thanking the good folks at Vinyl
>> Japan and buying multiple copies for ourselves, family, friends, and
>> total strangers.
>>
>> Instead, people on this list gripe about the fact that Sex & Travel
>> is not included, or "I'll only buy it if there are sixteen bonus
>> tracks," or that it might cost more than $10 to get one. Unbelievable.
>>
>> It's like the "Gold Circle" tour package last year... "gosh, why
>> should I pay $100 to get two songs on a burned CD... can anyone post
>> MP3 files?" instead of "isn't it a bloody miracle that Pat and Max
>> and the guys have reunited and are busting their butts to tour
>> America where they'll be lucky to break even. How can I support them
>> and make them feel like it was worth the effort so they might come
>> back again sometime."
>>
>> Or even the offer to video the Troubador show. We were all so worried
>> about whether we were getting it cheap enough that we're left with
>> nothing at all.
>>
>> I'm all for "fighting the power" and "sticking it to the man"
>> whenever possible. Go ahead, sneak in to the theatre to see "Planet
>> of the Apes" or burn copies of the new Backstreet Boys CD and litter
>> your local junior high school with them.
>>
>> But we're not talking pop culture trash here... we're talking about
>> supporting an artist whom we all love and respect, who most of us
>> have had the pleasure of at least meeting, who has brought us huge
>> amounts of enjoyment over the years. Granted, he is a "professional"
>> musician and hopefully makes at least a living from his music, but he
>> also must love doing it to endure all the headaches and neglect and
>> industry torment that he has faced over the years.
>>
>> So, now that we have something of a chance to correct history, to
>> allow Pat to finally collect decent royalties on the songs we've
>> already enjoyed for years, as fans we should jump at the chance to
>> pony up and pay our fair share. Vinyl Japan has obviously made a
>> substantial investment in issuing these discs (because the owners are
>> apparently huge JBC fans themselves) so we should do our part to
>> support this decision so that it is feasible for them to do other JBC
>> reissues as well as new material like "Rotten Soul." And who knows,
>> maybe there will be a "rarities" collection if we support the current
>> releases and "Cake City." (Yes, another compilation... his stuff is
>> just that good!)
>>
>> I guess it comes down to this. If WE don't support these releases, who
>>
>> Then this group will be right back to the old chants of "why doesn't
>> someone reissue the Glass stuff? I've looked everywhere and can't
>> find it except on eBay for $80."
>>
>> </rant>
>>
>> By the way, the new Ass Ponys record "Lohio" is spectacular...get it
>> at
>> http://www.checkeredpast.com/shop-bin/sb/order.cgi?storeid=checkered&dbname
>>
>> Check it out,
>> Gary
> Received on Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:59:19 -0700
Date: Fri 24 Aug 2001 - 07:59:19 PDT
Wow,
Chastised! Slain! Demonized!
FEEL BAD AND REPENT - Heathens!!!
My Heaven's -- I think most people on this list do support the JBC... I seen em live 7 times or so -- I once drove 500 miles to see em -- I scoured the bins to find the records --- I prophesize to the younger generation about the benefits of proper JBC listening habits ---
I think I'm well invested!!
And personally...
I think:
- Vinyl Japan should've made those CD's as appealing as possible. Are their hands tied?
- If this list never "griped" - these releases would probably not be happening. So, if we gripe enough - maybe, eventually we'll get re-releases that make more sense.
I don't read anyone as saying the re-issues are EVIL --- I just hear... Damn, after all this time we get something going and it's good - not great.
-NickVega.com
> From: dan bailey <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net> > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:33:53 -0500 > To: de l`abattoir <jbc-list@adjective.com> > Subject: Re: Support Vinyl Japan > > > ummm ... good points all, but having found myself jobless for the 2nd time > in 5 months, can i get a raincheck on shelling out bucks for something i've > already got on vinyl? for that matter, anyone interested in sending $100 for > a video of me listening to my favorite (or *least* favorite, even) jbc > tracks? > > dan > > >
>> The reissue of "Scandal in Bohemia" and the other old titles is a
>> minor miracle, and we should all be thanking the good folks at Vinyl
>> Japan and buying multiple copies for ourselves, family, friends, and
>> total strangers.
>>
>> Instead, people on this list gripe about the fact that Sex & Travel
>> is not included, or "I'll only buy it if there are sixteen bonus
>> tracks," or that it might cost more than $10 to get one. Unbelievable.
>>
>> It's like the "Gold Circle" tour package last year... "gosh, why
>> should I pay $100 to get two songs on a burned CD... can anyone post
>> MP3 files?" instead of "isn't it a bloody miracle that Pat and Max
>> and the guys have reunited and are busting their butts to tour
>> America where they'll be lucky to break even. How can I support them
>> and make them feel like it was worth the effort so they might come
>> back again sometime."
>>
>> Or even the offer to video the Troubador show. We were all so worried
>> about whether we were getting it cheap enough that we're left with
>> nothing at all.
>>
>> I'm all for "fighting the power" and "sticking it to the man"
>> whenever possible. Go ahead, sneak in to the theatre to see "Planet
>> of the Apes" or burn copies of the new Backstreet Boys CD and litter
>> your local junior high school with them.
>>
>> But we're not talking pop culture trash here... we're talking about
>> supporting an artist whom we all love and respect, who most of us
>> have had the pleasure of at least meeting, who has brought us huge
>> amounts of enjoyment over the years. Granted, he is a "professional"
>> musician and hopefully makes at least a living from his music, but he
>> also must love doing it to endure all the headaches and neglect and
>> industry torment that he has faced over the years.
>>
>> So, now that we have something of a chance to correct history, to
>> allow Pat to finally collect decent royalties on the songs we've
>> already enjoyed for years, as fans we should jump at the chance to
>> pony up and pay our fair share. Vinyl Japan has obviously made a
>> substantial investment in issuing these discs (because the owners are
>> apparently huge JBC fans themselves) so we should do our part to
>> support this decision so that it is feasible for them to do other JBC
>> reissues as well as new material like "Rotten Soul." And who knows,
>> maybe there will be a "rarities" collection if we support the current
>> releases and "Cake City." (Yes, another compilation... his stuff is
>> just that good!)
>>
>> I guess it comes down to this. If WE don't support these releases, who
> will?
>>
>> Then this group will be right back to the old chants of "why doesn't
>> someone reissue the Glass stuff? I've looked everywhere and can't
>> find it except on eBay for $80."
>>
>> </rant>
>>
>> By the way, the new Ass Ponys record "Lohio" is spectacular...get it
>> at
>> http://www.checkeredpast.com/shop-bin/sb/order.cgi?storeid=checkered&dbname
> =products&itemnum=73&function=add
>>
>> Check it out,
>> Gary
> Received on Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:59:19 -0700