Re: [JBC] live CDRs, a protocol proposal

From: Doc <blueaero_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Tue 07 May 2002 - 08:05:44 PDT

Hi All

I have nil experience with trading trees and no JBC material that hasn't already been passed around on this list like the village bike. However, I volunteer the services of my creaky Imation CD burner. My rules are:

-"Pat says it's OK to trade this stuff" ONLY. -I check each CD I burn to make the recording went OK. It may take an extra day or two for turnaround.
-I don't have a printer, so I won't include a cover.

If you can live with this, then I'll be happy to participate.

-Doc

• Brandon <brandon@discontent.com> wrote:
  > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:13:48AM -0700, Glen Davis wrote:
  >
  > I second this in every way - bandwidth allowing, this seems to be the best
  > way for lossless shows to make their way around, coupled of course with
  > a cd-r tree for the bandwidth-impared. :)
  >
  > I also second that, as a late JBC convert (first experience was being
  > dragged to the SF GAMH reunion show in '98) I have missed quite a few tours
  > that I'd love to at least get a sense of...
  >
  > B
  >
  > > Apologies to David, the first time I sent this, I just hit reply and only
  > > sent it to him.
  > >
  > > I absolutely agree with David here. If at all possible, it is best to go
  > > from a digital source like DAT to wave via an optical cable into a good
  > > sound card that doesn't resample input (on a computer) or to a cdr
  > recorder.
  > > Maybe we should hold off on starting to trade around cdrs that were
  > mastered
  > > from cassettes. Someday, we all hope, David will be able to 'release the
  > > vault' as it were (hopefully as shns), and then we'd all need to start
  > > replacing our cassette generation copies.
  > > I guess I've just be jonesing for some of the older shows and David's
  > > probably the only one who was able to capture those gems on a DAT instead
  > of
  > > a walkman held up in the audience.
  > >
  > > Ideally, IMO, what would work best and easiest, is if the best known copy
  > > around is converted to shn format (a lossless compression format) and then
  > > we could ftp shn files with each other. That way there is no generational
  > > loss, everyone has an exact clone of the original (shn files have check
  > > sums), and people can do whatever the hell they like with them ... i.e.
  > > convert and burn them to cdr or dvdr or play them directly with shnamp.
  > > This isn't exactly a new idea, it's exactly what we've been doing with jam
  > > band shows (Dead, Phish, Moe, MMW, Dave Mathews, etc.) and Pink Floyd shows
  > > for the last several years. Everyone gets a clone where we know everything
  > > from what mics, DAT machine, cable, soundcard, editing program, etc. to who
  > > taped the show in the first place.
  > >
  > > Any thoughts on this idea.
  > > Glen
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "David Whittemore" <del@adjective.com>
  > > > please, for the love of the music, if you do this, be SURE to specify:
  > > >
  > > > generation (master clone, gen 1, gen 2, gen X, unknown)
  > > > processing (dry, EQ, etc)
  > > > originator contact information (who'd it come from)
  > > >
  > > > this way, one can always try to strive to get closer to the master.
  > > >
  > > > me? i'm not going to burn any of my 80 JBC DATs to disc until they can
  > > > be held in their entirety on a single disc - which means i'm waiting for
  > > > DVD burning to standardize or until something more sane comes along.
  > > >
  > > > --
  > > > -david (del@adjective.com)
  > > >
  > >
  > >
  

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