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RE: Re: What really happened...

From: Doc <blueaero_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Sat 03 Nov 2001 - 09:49:44 PST


Y'know, nothing's been the same since they took "Magic Roundabout" off the air.

-Doc, who gets more than enough arguin' and fussin' in the non-JBC world...

  • Andy Loynes <puremc@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    > Ian, how do you manage to get out when you're movements must be extremely
    > restricted on account of being so tightly wrapped up in the flag?
    >
    > And as the US of A has been a breeding ground for terrorists for many years
    > will it need to launch a war against itself?
    >
    > Andy
    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: imatthws@another.com [mailto:imatthws@another.com]
    > Sent: 03 November 2001 15:46
    > To: jbc-list@adjective.com
    > Subject: FW: Re: What really happened...
    >
    >
    > Tom
    >
    > I can't believe you are saying this. You'll be denying the holocaust
    > happened next...
    >
    > You want to get outdoors and experience some life instead of scouring the
    > net for conspiracy theories propagated by spotty teenagers...
    >
    > Ian
    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From : Tom Zimmer <factus@altavista.com>
    > To : imatthws@another.com
    > Date : 02 November 2001 20:33:43
    > Subject : Re: What really happened...
    > Or maybe only (only?) 2500 by some qualified reports. Seems the government
    > can't get even that simple figure right. Next you know it'll be 10000. Who's
    > right when everybody's wrong?
    > >
    > >I'd say Saudi Arabia and Iraq are bigger training grounds than anything the
    > Taliban can afford to support. Besides, we've been bombing the crap out of
    > them for what, 3 weeks? How much can be left to bomb? Nothing's going to be
    > resolved there until the ground troops get in. When the casualties start
    > mounting up, I'll wager public opinion will shift somewhat. Glad I'm way too
    > old to be drafted for this one.
    > >
    > >All I'm really trying to say about this is you can't believe everything
    > anyone tells you. Swallow this whole thing as protrayed by Washington and
    > London and the major mainstream news media, without thinking or digging into
    > it on alternative news sources, and next thing we could be doing is living
    > in a fascist police state. Perhaps this quote from Mark Twain (found at
    > whatreallyhappened.com) says it best:
    > >
    > >ıThe citizen who sees his societyıs democratic clothes being worn out and
    > does not cry out is not a patriot but a traitor.ı
    > >
    > >But we could both argue forever and never change anything, nevertheless
    > each other's minds. Hope the “evil doers“ don't get you or me :-) Have a
    > good one.
    > >
    > >TZ
    > >
    > >On Fri, 02 November 2001, imatthws@another.com wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> What do you suggest then? Continuing to allow the Taliban to run a
    > breeding ground for terrorists? Hold a be-in?
    > >>
    > >> Open my mind? Doesn't need it mate - you should wake up and smell the
    > coffee, 6000 innocent people dead...
    > >>
    > >> -----Original Message-----
    > >> From : Tom Zimmer <factus@altavista.com>
    > >> To : imatthws@another.com
    > >> Date : 02 November 2001 18:49:33
    > >> Subject : Re: What really happened...
    > >> You're obviously mentally unstable. Give a thought to returning to the UK
    > to live. We have enough right wing nuts of our own just now.
    > >> >
    > >> >I don't think anyone is advocating ıtaking it up the arse from the
    > terroristsı. But bombing a stone age society back to the stoneage isn't
    > going to weed out an highly sophisticated international network of terrorist
    > cells. It's all show and no substance, just to make Bush and Blair look like
    > we're at least doing something.
    > >> >
    > >> >Grow up and open your mind (and quit making assumptions about what will
    > offend other people). People like that offend me ;-)
    > >> >
    > >> >TZ
    > >> >
    > >> >On Fri, 02 November 2001, imatthws@another.com wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >>
    > >> >> My point being that not being an American means i am not blindly
    > supporting the US just cos that's where i was born. However I am supporting
    > their action by not just sitting and taking it up the arse from the
    > terrorists like you peace brigade beatniks would do...
    > >> >>
    > >> >> I just wonder what the remaining Brits on the list would be saying if
    > the atrocities had happened in London and your favourite US band leader was
    > promoting anti-british web sites...
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Hmm indeed...
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >> -----Original Message-----
    > >> >> From : Tom Zimmer <factus@altavista.com>
    > >> >> To : jbc-list@adjective.com
    > >> >> Date : 02 November 2001 17:01:45
    > >> >> Subject : Re: What really happened...
    > >> >> > If any of you went to the website www.whatreallyhappened.com
    > >> >> >> you will see a load of anti-american garbage saying how bad
    > >> >> >> things are for Afghanistan, doubting the identity of the sept
    > >> >> >> 11th terrorists and basically blaming the US for everything
    > >> >> >> that has happenend. I didn't stay on the site for long but I
    > >> >> >> saw enough...
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Perhaps if youıd stayed there longer youıd not have seen it as
    > anti-American garbage, but just an alternative news view of the situation.
    > If you think Resident Bush and his aging cold warrior cabinet are telling
    > the truth and nothing but the truth, thereıs this bridge in Brooklyn Iıve
    > been looking to sell. I think the stories and the author of the site raise
    > some damned interesting questions that are NOT being answered by the Feds or
    > the mainstream media.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >> Pat, surely you don't believe any of the rubbish on this
    > >> >> >> website. Don't you realise how popular you are in the US? and
    > >> >> >> how many people on this list you will offend by advertising
    > >> >> >> the site in a note containing good news that the JBC are
    > >> >> >> playing more gigs...
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >What? Weıre not all as narrow minded as that (and apparently you).
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >> By the way, I am British but live in the US.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Your point being?
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >TZ
    > >> >> >
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