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Re: [JBC] CD duplication is not ok

From: Kirk Biglione <kirkb_at_pandemic.com>
Date: Mon 23 Aug 1999 - 11:54:53 PDT


Pat's feelings on this matter are certainly understandable and should be honored regardless of what anyone else may think.

But as you note . . .

> without a protocol in place to provide for artist payments, then he
> considers the process bootlegging and will act to cease it. this
> is his livelihood, plain and simple.

I think the problem here is that there is no protocol in place for fans of his music to acquire it in any legal form. The recent postings have been expressing some desire to create a makeshift protocol and provide some form of compensation. The traditional system of distribution has failed to deliver the product to those who desire to purchase it.

For what it's worth, Pat's not the only artist in this particular boat. The "traditional" music business is due for a major kick in the ass for exactly this reason.

Within the realm of legal limitations (pending contracts permitting) it would be nice to see Pat and the rest consider some alternative forms of distribution. Especially for music that has yet to be created. Nothing worse than thinking about future great JBC records that will go out of print in no time flat. Especially in a digital world where there's no reason for anything to ever go out of print.

kb

> so, the issue is not that "making copies of CDs takes nothing
> out of pat's pocket"..
>
> the issue is that this desire to fill-out our CD collections does
> nothing to attempt to PUT money into the artist's pocket.
>
> admit it or not, but by distributing the music in any manner not
> approved in contract by the artist, you are ripping him off.
>
> i have spoken with pat on this in the past. we were on the topic
> of MP3 trading, and the above basically reflects his line - without
> a protocol in place to provide for artist payments, then he considers the
> process bootlegging and will act to cease it. this is his livelihood,
> plain and simple.
>
> that known - please refrain from discussing the duplication and
> distribution of CDs on this mailing list.
>
> sorry to be a hardass.
>
> -david (del@adjective.com)
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Received on Mon Aug 23 13:41 PDT 1999